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[00:00:00] Alex Tsakiris: On this episode of skeptiko. A show about hearing the truth.

[00:00:07] clip: You need to find the truth about yourself. It’s quite simple, Jack. You need to get quiet, not just with your mouth, with your mind. And in that quiet, you will hear the truth.

Alex Tsakiris: Even if it’s coming from yourself.

[00:00:26] Tim Grimes: How could you have to force yourself to be what you already are?

You’re here. So there’s nothing you have to force.

Alex Tsakiris: That first clip was from a 2012 movie, a thousand words. And the second was from today’s returning guest, Tim Grimes.

The show is a little different from the usual skeptical stuff. Although I’ve done a few shows on this and as you know, , this is really where my heart’s at. What’s nearest and dearest to me. So I hope you enjoy it. ===

[00:00:56] Alex Tsakiris: Welcome to skeptical where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics.

I’m your host, Alex Garris. And today we welcome back Tim Grimes. Tim is the author of the joy of not thinking a radical approach to happiness. This is the book that first introduced me to Tim. It’s still out there. You can still read it for free on Kindle unlimited great book.

Really enjoyed it. You can also find tim@radicalcounselor.com. I’ve pulled that up on the screen if you’re ever watching on YouTube. And uh, he’s got another, a number of other books on Amazon and he has really great podcasts as well. That. I love listening to, I’m just, uh, it’s, it’s one of the ones I wait for and see if it pops up and I get to it right away.

So I have had Tim on a couple times. I obviously you can tell from what I just said, that I really appreciate his work. So I pinged him to do this different project and I just thought it’d be fun. And Tim, welcome back. Thanks so much for being

[00:02:06] Tim Grimes: here. Thank you, Alex. It’s uh, always a pleasure. I realize I’m sitting this chair.

I have a very comfortable chair and I’m very far back from the screen. So I’m gonna move up a little bit. I might move back later. Hi everybody.

[00:02:19] Alex Tsakiris: that looks good. Okay. Now our, now our heads are about the same size instead of me looking like giant head . So I pinged you, uh, a couple. Months ago, I guess, because I have this practice.

It’s one of my daily practices. I won’t say spiritual practice, but it is a spiritual practice. And that is that I have these questions that I’ve written for myself because I’ve found that questions provoke me and provoke that little voice in my head to answer them in a unique way or in a way that inspires me.

So I said, Hey, Tim, I’ve actually added to my list of questions with some of the questions that I’ve gotten from your show. What do you think about doing a show on seven questions for the voice inside your head? And you responded in exactly the way I would’ve expected and hope that you respond. You were like, hell yeah, I’m down for that.

That sounds good. So I don’t know if it’ll be seven questions. It might be more, it might be less. But tell me, tell everybody kind of what you think of this idea in general of questions for the voice inside your

[00:03:34] Tim Grimes: head. Sure. I know you’re a fan of the joy of not thinking that book and in that book, uh, it’s a short book.

It’s more like a guide. One of the things I talk about is that there’s something running in our mind constantly, and it’s, it’s our thinking, right. But we usually would consider our thinking to be, and a lot of the time it’s annoying as all fuck. And it’s, uh, destroying our life. It’s making us feel stressed out and incompetent as opposed to feeling decent and alive and you know, feeling okay.

So, you know, over the years I. Refined different ways to make it so that that bothersome voice in my head can be neutralized relatively easily and relatively consistently and, uh, relatively quickly a lot of the time. And there’s different ways of doing that. That’s what the joy of not thinking is primarily about.

And I think we’re gonna probably dive into some of those ways today. And, and these questions are a way of enabling us to, first of all, notice this voice in our head that it’s just a voice and it’s not what we actually are. And secondly, the questions are gonna allow us to via piece, even with this voice in our head being there.

Cuz we realized that if this thing talking to us is not actually the end all be all, then things are.

[00:04:59] Alex Tsakiris: I love that. And I love both parts of that because, you know, it’s almost like, uh, end all be all I think is key. It’s not that the voice inside our head isn’t us. It just, isn’t

[00:05:10] Tim Grimes: all of us. Right? Exactly.

It’s not, it’s not our entire being, there’s so much more there. Yeah.

[00:05:17] Alex Tsakiris: And the other thing that I, I really like that you bring us back to in such an awesome way, is that the logical implications of that, if you really follow it all the way through, and I hope we will, as we get into these questions is exactly what you said is that maybe I’m okay.

Maybe, maybe I’m okay. And, uh, that is, that is certainly the, the message. If it’s true, that’s certainly a message that might be worth kind of getting back in touch with. So. We’ll just jump right into these questions. Take a minute. If you want. I can pause. I can edit this out a little bit.

If you need to,

[00:05:57] Tim Grimes: we’re not tell me we’re not editing this out. This is the goals right here. It is me looking at these questions.

[00:06:03] Alex Tsakiris: Okay. So start with one and

[00:06:05] Tim Grimes: tell me I’m gonna go from the, I’m just gonna go from the beginning. Is there anything I need to do or force to be present? Cause that’s a darn good question, Alex, you ask yourself this every day.

It’s a good, I do. That’s a good question to ask. So again, just, is there anything I need to do or force to be present? We hear obviously all the time in popular culture now, you know, be present, you know, stay in the moment and you know, that lends itself to the question.

Well, how do I do that? You know? And do I, you know, do I have to do something special? Do I have to force it? You know, and people go so far as to be like, well, you have to meditate a certain way or breathe a certain way or say a mantra in a certain way. And in my opinion, that’s all baloney. There, you do not have to force anything to be here right now.

Again, like Alex just mentioned, this is just logic you you’re here. There’s nothing you have to do to be here. How could you have to force yourself to be what you already are?

You’re here. So there’s nothing you have to force. And as Alex touched upon too, there there’s gonna be a lot of implications from this. But I think if we’re looking at this kinda logically, we recognize I don’t need breathing or meditation or an ice bath or whatever, I’m just.

[00:07:29] Alex Tsakiris: I love that. And I love the fact that you also play with the other side of it, which is if that is true and it’s radically true, why is it hard for me to get to that place? And if I kind of say, okay, it is kind of hard for me to get to that place. What can I do to kind of boost my chances of, of getting there, of being present?

So I’m gonna start with my first question is one that I got directly from, , your podcast law of attraction explored and here’s the question what if I redirect my imagination to feel what I want again?

And again? And I’ll tell you what really grabs me about this is I love the way you use imagination here, because part of this voice that we have to wrestle with is the negativity associated with it. The negativity we’ve created, but we also have some positive aspects to our voice that we can tap into an imagination for me.

And I think for a lot of people is a positive term. Oh yeah. I’m good at imagining. I’m good at daydreaming. I’m good at playing pretend that’s all imagination. Oh, so I have imagination. What if I could redirect it? Which is such an awesome word too. It’s not forcing. It’s just, it’s there. It’s imagining what if I could redirect it and what am I gonna redirect it towards?

Am I gonna boss it around and tell it to do this or that? No. What if I just redirected it to feel what I wanna feel? Oh, Maybe I could do that. Oh, as soon as I’d say it, I feel it. I can’t help, but feel it that’s the magic of the question is I can’t help, but answer it. I answer it. And I go, oh, I just direct a man imagination to feel it.

Oh, was instant. Can I do it again? Can I do it again? And I do it a couple times. I go, hell man, I got the keys to the kingdom right here. What do you think, Tim? I, I, I ripped this off of you. So add to

[00:09:30] Tim Grimes: it. Yeah. That, that’s it. I mean,

in my book, which is different than the podcast, although they really go hand in hand in my book, the law of attraction simplified, I say the problem is that we’re imagining all day long and we don’t realize we’re imagining all day long and we’re predominantly imagining negatively. And as Alex just said, I mean, if you can.

Work with your imagination as we all do. Cause we also imagine positively, we’ve all done that in the past. You know, we, even though we are imagining negatively, it’s kind of like we’re doing that just on autopilot. So how about if we start playing with this whole idea more and realize that if we are seemingly always imagining if really imagining might just be another word or synonymous with our thinking or consciousness, uh, why don’t we just start imagining more of what we want and you know, it, it, it sounds easy to do and it can be more difficult than it sounds, but it also can be as simple as what Alex has mentioned about redirecting yourself to what you want to feel right now.

Cause I’m not talking about changing anything in the external world. When I talk about redirecting your imagination right now, it’s that what you want right now. If you’re. Imagining all the time. You can imagine what you want to feel, or you can at least start to touch that if you can’t quite get there in the imagination, you can at least start redirecting it.

So you’re getting a little bit closer and the closer you get, the easier it will be to feel it. And even if you can’t go all the way right now, you’ll start to loosen up some and you might be feeling like crap. And by thinking about what you really want to feel, you’ll start not feeling as lousy and neutralize.

Some of that negativity in the very least, and what Alex is saying, and many people can do this. They can just redirect, redirect, redirect, redirect until they’re feeling pretty darn good. Having done nothing, except you just use their minds and bodies to imagine what’s going on right now in the present moment.

[00:11:44] Alex Tsakiris: Okay. Why don’t you pick the next one?

[00:11:48] Tim Grimes: Let me see, this is the, the best part. It’s, you know what they say? The truth is the, uh, the silence between the talk or something like that. So how easy, so do we just do, how easy is it to look between my eyes and just watch? Is that what that was? Basically?

[00:12:03] Alex Tsakiris: It, it, it it’s similar, but it, I mean, a lot of these are gonna be similar.

They’re gonna intersect a lot of them. Exactly. Well said. Right. They’re going intersect diagram thing.

[00:12:15] Tim Grimes: Totally. So yeah. How easy is it to just look between my eyes and just watch? So, in other words, how easy is it to do this? Well, you might begin to begin to drift here of what we’re discussing. It’s really freaking easy, cuz we’re not trying to do anything outside of ourselves.

You’re here right now. You are here right now. Okay. That’s pretty much undeniable you’re here, right? And you’re imagining right now, in my opinion, that’s also undeniable, you’re thinking, right.

So why can’t we just be here right now?

[00:12:47] Alex Tsakiris: You know, the other thing I toss in there and I’ll, I’ll get you to kind of riff on this is that again, and I love this dynamic and I think people will either get it and appreciate it, or they’ll just think we’re talking around in circle or not. Right. but that’s this interplay between the doing and the not doing, you know, and it’s very kind of, non-dual kind of shit, but it, it there’s a certain reality to it that we can relate to.

When I physically use these little tricks to kind of trick this consciousness thing into experiencing being here. Now, it like gives me a little boost. So when I close my eyes and bring the attention of my focus to this space between my head, I know that’s bullshit on some level of mm-hmm , it’s some kind of physical thing, but God darn it.

If it doesn’t work every time I do it. And it also, I, for me, it stands in contrast to something you alluded to before of all this wacky messaging, we get about meditation to do this way and do that. And seven hours is enough, but might be too much. And this and that, it’s like, no, just do this for one second.

Just close your eyes and look between that spot. Right? Between your eyes. Did you feel something for an instant? Oh, you did. Didn’t. Okay. Don’t even worry about what it means, but just wasn’t that easy. You just did it. And something happened. What is that a clue to, to kind of break through this, this voice in my head that won’t let me alone.

And I, I know you’re an experienced, uh, meditator, so this is, uh, but Zen mind, beginner, mind riff on any of that, that you, uh, that

[00:14:32] Tim Grimes: you like? Yeah. I mean, I remember the first time actually that, uh, I sat down and tried to perform a formal Zen meditation. I was probably 17 or 18 years old and I just read this.

I think I had read part ASMI beginners, mine by Suzuki. And, uh, I’ve read this other book by dehi. Maro, I think is his name. And I sat down and like I immediately was like in this ecstatic state. And then I proceeded to basically meditate every day for the next 12 or so years. And that ecstatic state was so fucking hard to come by.

Sometimes it was there, but 98% of the time, it was nothing like that. And probably more like 99.8% of the time. And you know, I lived at a fucking Zen center for a year. Like I was meditating a lot. And you know, the great Zen teachers, they all basically say like, they’re like, oh, it’s not about that.

It’s not about that EC ecstasy whatsoever. So what’s it about? Cause I like to a lot of those young people, I like a lot. I still really relate to that stuff. What, what is it really about? Well, what it’s really about is the fucking sensation between your eyeballs in the middle of your forehead right now.

Or, you know, if you just ban your chest, I’m not gonna do it too loud. Cause I have a mic on. But like if you ban your chest really quickly, or if you were just to scream, I’m not gonna scream. But if you were to scream, ah, that moment, what happened? You realize that that thinking mind is not the real you, the real you is something much deeper, profound, holistic, and good, or dare we say it, God, within you.

That’s here all along and is actually running the whole operation. This little thinking thing is just part of it. And this little thinking thing has plenty of good practical purposes. Don’t get me wrong. But when it is on overdrive and you think that is all there is, it will probably fuck you up in a bad way.

That’s, you know, most of my work is basically about that. And you do not need to do any formal meditation formal bruh. Haha. Have a special diet, be, you know, some kind of crazy discipline, whatever in order to realize that you are here right now and what you are is not that little thinking mind.

[00:16:49] Alex Tsakiris: Nice. Okay. I’ll toss another one out there.

What if it was okay, just to be happy and I, I love, you know, some of your earlier work about being playful, which is, I think another way of getting to this. Happiness thing that we know that we want. And it’s so interesting how we put up all these barriers to say, well, I can’t really be happy until I finish the report.

I can’t really be happy until I lose that five pounds. I can’t be happy until I make this much money. And it’s like, yeah. What if, what if I just gave myself permission to, you know, just be happy right now? Happy, not like peaceful any of that shit happy. I think that’s powerful. Uh, what are, what are your thoughts on, on that?

[00:17:37] Tim Grimes: Yeah, I mean, that’s still some something that I feel like, uh, of all the stuff I’ve shared with people. I, I still think that’s probably the most interesting thing that I’ve ever shared is just that if you are really. Goofy and playful and move your body. And again, I talked about this in the joy of not thinking, and I have a whole video series called stop being serious from a long time ago, from over 10 years ago where it’s just like, literally me jumping up and down and doing all these ridiculous things and then talking about it.

Some, if you do that, you’re, you’re gonna feel good, pretty much guaranteed. You can feel like crap. And if you jump around like a monkey and are blasting your favorite music and just do that with a hundred percent effort, you’re gonna realize that you are not you. And what you actually are is, uh, is good.

And that’s gonna make you feel very happy, you know? And that’s like, That’s a hack and a secret. That’s so obvious. Like children intuitively kind of know it. I, I would say it’s so obvious that it makes basically every adult in our culture uncomfortable, totally uncomfortable. I’ve spoken about this stuff for years.

And most people I speak to, you know, Alex is an exception. Like most people I speak to about it. They don’t even want to go near it. You know, I’ve got individual clients who are like, you know, I was trying to do the playful thing where I, you know, bang my chest, like a, a monkey and I couldn’t do it. And you have to ask like, why not?

You know, you’re alone in a room. Why can’t you ban your chest? Like a monkey? Why can’t you make some funny noises? Why chance to talk like

[00:19:17] Alex Tsakiris: this to yourself for a minute or two or three minutes? Why chance you do it? Why can’t you do it?

[00:19:23] Tim Grimes: Cause if you do it, you’re gonna

[00:19:24] Alex Tsakiris: break those boundaries and you’re not who you think you are.

You’re

[00:19:28] Tim Grimes: something else. It’s very interesting how we are. Not comfortable being playful kids are, but adults usually not, not so much.

[00:19:39] Alex Tsakiris: Awesome. . Okay. Uh, why don’t you pick the next one?

[00:19:43] Tim Grimes: Sure. Oh, the whole vibing thing. I, I, I put that there, like connecting that, so we haven’t really talked about that yet. Do you have anything, put

[00:19:51] Alex Tsakiris: it in a question, put it in the question

[00:19:53] Tim Grimes: question are magic. Yeah. Okay. What happens when I vibe out ? So when I say vibe out that again, circles back to just, well, what if I’m just okay. Being here right? And I just relax my body to the best of my abilities and let my mind race like a motherfucker and think whatever it’s gonna think.

And if my body, even though I’m relaxing, physically is in pain, I just let it be physically in pain. I just relax into it as best I can.

What’s gonna happen if I do that for five or 10 minutes, I remember

[00:20:28] Alex Tsakiris: the first time I interviewed you and I always remember this line and it’s like one of those, it’s like your, your silliness thing that I, I, I’m almost embarrassed. I did all those silliness exercise. They’re awesome by the way. But you said, you know, I always wanted to be a bum.

Yeah, that was Tim Grimes. That’s like, fuck dude, you do that. You admit that, like, we all just wanted to be a bum when we were kids, we thought that was the coolest thing in the world, just to have nothing to do just to vibe out, you know? And then we got indoctrinated with all the rest of this stuff. Some of which is good, but I associate that when I hear you say, you know, vibe out, what if it’s okay.

Just, you know, what happens if I just vibe out? Do you wanna, does

[00:21:13] Tim Grimes: that connect? Of course. I mean, that’s like, uh, again, this is all of the joy, not thinking, but like that’s the thing. I mean, if I’m being honest with myself, I, I always relate it to people who were basically bumps, you know? And then like, you know, when I got into spirituality, I got into spirituality relatively young.

Like, you know, you’d read about those Indian and Japanese and mystics, you know, and they’re just living by the side of the river, you know, or they’re playing a bamboo float flute, or they’re not doing anything. That’s what I can relate to, to this day, you know? And I have a lot of responsibilities these days, most of which I enjoy you know, I enjoy my children, you know, I enjoy the work that I do, but I can’t relate to that.

Go go mentality, cuz that go, go mentality, connotates overthinking for me. And for some people, perhaps it doesn’t. But I think that people are so very serious about living their life and being this certain kind of person and. In my opinion, you know, you, the great Coda soak, you know, one of my Zen masters, I really looked up to, he was the 20th century Zen master.

He said, enlightenment is like a thief breaking into an empty house. There’s nothing to steal and there’s no one to catch ’em. And, uh, I really that line some mates, how I look at life really. And that means like, I’m kind of, I have a bum sensibility. I’m not afraid to admit that, you know, in the same way, you know, they called Koto soak, homeless, Koto soak, cuz he never had a, he had like a traveling temple.

He had no home and he goes, what’s wrong with being homeless. We’re all homeless anyway, in reality, you know, so

[00:22:59] Alex Tsakiris: love it. Okay. Let’s try and do two more. We’ll call it. Won’t we won’t overdo it. Uh, I’ll pick this one. I loved this one. What if I didn’t complain about the weather? And, uh, the reason I throw this in there is cuz it’s kind of a little bit, we’re all positive and all this stuff.

It’s kind of a negative part. It’s kind of getting right at our self-centered egotistical narcissistic. Voice that maybe we need to once in a while, just kind of check it a little bit, you know, just bro, are you, are you really, you, you, you, you know, the sun’s 94 million miles away and it heats up the ocean and that forms clouds and that forms rain.

And, you know, there’s a lot of billions of people on the planet. And in that context, you’re pretty, pretty small element to be considering. Why the fuck is it gonna rain on Friday or your Saturday, or that’s my day off. You’re not the center of the universe.

Mr. Sun. Isn’t shining on the ocean in order to rain on your freaking weekend and weather, I think immediately catapults us into that. What are, what are your thoughts on the kind of checking the narcissistic part of that voice?

[00:24:22] Tim Grimes: Well, I think it, you know, I, it ties a little bit back into what we were just discussing about being a bum.

Like if you’re a bum or a dropout, if it rains out it rains, all right. I guess I gotta find shelter, but that’s all there is to it. It’s not like. It’s not a big deal. And we live in a day and age where we’re so inundated with people complaining and social media in many ways. There’s a lot of good things about social media, but in many ways it’s like a gigantic pool of people complaining about the weather.

And we’re just talking about just dropping that from your life or in the very least dropping that from your day to day reality. Most stuff that we think we need to happen does not need to happen in order for us to be happy.

[00:25:18] Alex Tsakiris: Okay. You get to pick the last one. We went way over seven, I think, which is great because seven was a trick too here in case you didn’t notice it.

Why do you need seven questions? I got about 30 on my list, but seven, you were like, okay. Seven questions, but pick the

[00:25:34] Tim Grimes: last one. Yeah. I mean, I was just gonna say that obviously any of these questions, if they resonate for you and exactly like Alex did, you can make your own questions. Just asking a couple of them or even one of them a day to yourself is enough to see different things transpire, I think just because you’re questioning your sense of your normal thinking reality.

So it’s not about the number of questions to be obvious. It’s, it’s, it’s about what you’re asking yourself each day. And that can be one question or many So, yeah. Can I let go of some of the heavy stuff? Have we done that one yet? Alex? I feel like, no,

[00:26:12] Alex Tsakiris: I, I really want you to do that one, cuz I think I got that one from you too.

So

[00:26:16] Tim Grimes: go ahead. Yeah. Can, can I let some of the heavy stuff again, all these things tie together, all these questions tie together, but when we go at things and this kind of alternative way, you know, I like to say radical way and we realize that that voice in our heads that is dictating seemingly everything is not actually the thing in charge and that there’s something else in charge.

That’s much greater than that. And that, that thing is not really a thing, but it’s just, it’s it’s life itself. And that we can relax into that because it’s good in some like profound incomprehensible way when we realized that. A lot of seemingly negative shit can be going on in our lives. You know, we can have problems, you know, serious problems, you know, health problems, financial problems, relationship problems.

What have you. But this thing is still here. This sense of goodness. Even when we think with our thinking inner mind, that everything’s terrible, this other not thing thing is here the whole time. And you can still focus on that thing between your eyes or jump up and down like a monkey or vein your chest, or do whatever the heck you wanna do.

And bam, maybe just for an instant, you realize the truth is not what you’re thinking and all of that heavy stuff, ultimately, as terrible as it may be is not real in the way you think it is. And. Is a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous relief. And that’s something you can practice doing, you know, on a daily basis.

Pretty

[00:27:56] Alex Tsakiris: much. Yeah, that’s great. , we’re all just, , playing with these ideas, but a lot of times it seems to me like the heavy stuff is the stuff we just feel. I can’t, I can’t let go of that. You know, I, the grief that I feel and what I caused, I mean, yeah.

Tim, tell me about the other shit. I I’ll try and let, I can’t let go of that. And it’s like, well, what if you could, what if you could let go of some, not all of it, but what if you could let go of some of the really heavy stuff, because maybe you’ve told yourself no, no, the heavy stuff you. Just another way to pick this thing apart is the way that, uh, the way that I saw it, you know, maybe a way to wrap it up.

And I want you to tell people about what you do and your books and your podcast and your coaching and, and that kind of stuff. But I also wanna talk about what you and I were talking about at the beginning, which is what it means from a practical standpoint, to remove some of these barriers, because in a way it, it, what we’ve been talking about is the stuff that kind of clutters us from this magic that’s going inside.

And, you know, from your experience, working with people, what does it mean when some of that stuff is kind of cleared out of the pathway there?

[00:29:23] Tim Grimes: I mean, frankly, You know, miracles can happen is what people think. But really, I think it’s just, you get out of your own way. So stuff, stuff correspondingly kind of starts to straighten out, you know, whether that means relationship issues.

You know, I’ve worked with quite a few people. Who’ve had serious relationship issues, whether it means, you know, something with like divorce or kids, stuff like that, all of a sudden the relationship is, you know, it’s ReMed to a large degree, something like that. I think as you get out of your own way and that, and you allow for something like that to happen that’s a good example, but.

When you stop taking your, that inner voices, seriously, you become a more empathetic person. You know, you don’t become, uh, dispassionate towards other people’s needs. You become more able to deal with people. So I think that interpersonal thing is, is something I’ve really noticed. And you know, obviously not obviously, but your health generally improves.

The more crap you get out of your, your, your mental crap, you get out of your system, you might be surprised that your health improves or, you know, for some people, their financial situation might improve. You know, they, and so much of it just comes back to being open to life and not being as overwhelmed by the thoughts in your head and thinking that is all there is to life, but being okay with you’re here and that’s, that’s fine to be here.

And it’s actually good just to be here right now.

[00:30:48] Alex Tsakiris: So Tim, as we wrap it up, tell folks more about, your work broadly, , your podcast, your books. Sure. Your

[00:30:58] Tim Grimes: website. Yeah. So I’ve written at this point, I’ve written a lot of books, uh, or several books, I should say. That mainly deal with what exactly what we were talking about. Just mental health, stress relief, and then kind of bringing them together with spirituality, spiritual concepts, and a lot of law of attraction concepts.

I use the term law of attraction loosely. I have a whole podcast where I explore a lot of the older 20th century law of attraction teachers, because they have a lot of great practical information that you can tie together with what we’ve been discussing today. So I talk about a lot of teachers that I think should be known, but really are not well known.

And a lot of their ideas tie together with, you know, just being open to the moment like. Like we just have been doing for the last hour or so. So I tie all that stuff together and then I provide counseling and coaching for people who wanna basically just go deep with me to do the stuff that Alex and I just did.

You know, and realize that what’s happening right now is, is good. You know, or if you want to use a spiritual term what’s happening right now is God. But we don’t have to use spiritual terms. It’s just realizing that what is going on right? This moment is fine and there’s nothing wrong with you. You know?

That with that comes relief. That’s the stress management element is that you feel better when you realize there’s nothing wrong with you. So that’s what I do with people.

[00:32:16] Alex Tsakiris: Awesome. Glad you’re out there doing it. Glad I found you, man. You’re you’re just a gem. You’re a

[00:32:22] Tim Grimes: gift. It’s always a pleasure. Uh, you know, talking to you, Alex, and this, I hope that this, uh, this hour or so has been helpful for people.

Cause I know it’s a little bit different and I think hopefully What we were just doing is something that people will be able to utilize in their own day to day lives, you know, in terms of the questions and stuff like that. So,

[00:32:41] Alex Tsakiris: awesome, buddy. We’ll leave it right there. Terrific.

thanks again to Tim Joining me today on skeptical.

The one question I’d have for you is what is the question that you ask that voice inside your Let me know your thoughts. Love to hear from you on the skeptical forum or email or any where else you might reach That’s going to do it for this episode. Until next time. Take care.

And bye for now.

 

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