9. The Universe Isn’t Pointless, Dr. Jean Burns

Guest: Dr. Jean Burns discusses her experiences on the front lines of the “psi
wars”, and the relationship between physics and consciousness research: “… physics says,
and remember currently known physics is about matter, it’s not about consciousness … the
whole universe is pointless … but that’s not all there is, because if you add consciousness, and you add free will, then there’s something more.”


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