Interview with renowned psychic detective Noreen Renier.
photo by Samuel Globus
Alex Tsakiris: What about from the standpoint of law enforcement? What changes have you seen in law enforcement over the years that you’ve been doing this and how they feel about psychic detective work?
Noreen Renier: I think they’ve closed the doors much more now than they did before for one or two reasons: the harassment they get for using us, and number two, they might have more of an underground of a different level of people who are doing exactly what I’m doing only they work for different departments. They’ve used us in the past. There isn’t any reason why they haven’t trained their own to do things that people like me can do. And I’ve done some work with the remote viewers. I always thought I had to touch an item to get the energy from it. But as you know they just give the target a number and they call it a target. So the first time I did it I was really scared. So I asked them, and I know it wasn’t their protocol, but I wanted to be able to describe the person. I knew it was going to be a person and they said “MIA”. It turned out to be an FBI agent but at the time they just needed to know where he was being held captive so they could get him released. So my job was to describe the area, building or structure, the country … for them to identify where he was being held so they could negotiate his release.
With over 40 years in the field, Noreen discusses the changes she’s observed in psychic investigative work and how law enforcement has embraced and utilized the technique.
Alex Tsakiris: How has the work changed for you? Has your process changed? Or has the work that’s come to you changed? And what do you see going on in general in the field of psychic investigation and in our society and how we’re orienting ourselves toward the idea that maybe someone can do these kinds of things that you do?
Noreen Renier: I think that the awareness of the mind has become a little more focused. I think we’re still in kindergarten as far as the research we’re doing or even what our imaginations can create, and what the mind can do. [Such as] future events that could be helpful for medicine, could be helpful for technology; tuning into someone’s mind that’s brilliant now in that field and seeing what they might discover. I always thought that was sort of interesting.
Alex Tsakiris: What about from the standpoint of law enforcement? What changes have you seen in law enforcement over the years that you’ve been doing this and how they feel about psychic detective work.
Noreen Renier: I think they’ve closed the doors much more now than they did before for one or two reasons: the harassment they get for using us, and number two, they might have more of an underground or a different level of people who are doing exactly what I’m doing only they work for different departments. They’ve used us in the past. There’s no reason why they haven’t trained their own to do things that people like me can do. And I’ve done some work with the remote viewers. I always thought I had to touch an item to get the energy from it. But as you know they just give the target a number and they call it a target. So the first time I did it I was really scared. So I asked them, and I know it wasn’t their protocol, but I wanted to be able to describe the person. I knew it was going to be a person and they said “MIA”. It turned out to be an FBI agent but at the time they just needed to know where he was being held captive so they could get him released. So my job was to describe the area, building or structure, the country … for them to identify where he was being held so they could negotiate his release.
Alex Tsakiris:..I wonder, what do you think about remote viewing as a way of accessing this mind, and when you say “mind” I think you mean mind with a capital M; the big Mind that we don’t really understand, that seems to hold this huge body of information that people tap into from a number of different ways whether it’s near death experience, or psychic work, or all sorts of different ways. What do you think about remote viewing? And what do you think they are doing versus what you are doing when you try to access this information?
Noreen Renier: I think the remote viewers are good but I think my technique is better because the work I did for these people who are in some way connected to our government, they must’ve had all these people doing the same thing that I was doing. [Viewing] the same target. They’d say, your information was so accurate, you did so much better than the remote viewers. Why? First of all, I’ve been doing this for gillions of years, this is my job. I’ve train my mind to be able to respond to the questions to get the answers to the questions that they ask me. But with remote reviewing, I think it’s more down to earth than saying “psychics”. Just that word scares people.
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Noreen talks about the ongoing stigma around individuals with psychic abilities and how attitudes vary culturally with respect to the mind’s capabilities.
Noreen Renier: We’re so frightened. We’re so cautious with being safe, or not offending people. To heck with that. If it’s going to help the individuals our caution shouldn’t be such a high-stake caution about trying and opening and doing things with the mind; and letting the public know what we’re doing instead of hiding it. I know there’s so much hidden or being done in other countries so they can honestly say no, we’re not doing that. And the truth is that they’re helping to fund other countries.
Alex Tsakiris: I think you’re spot-on on that. Don’t you think that a lot of that stems back to the spiritual or occult overtones that are still associated with this work. One of the things I know from your work is you’ve never had any kind of attachment to any kind of spirituality. As far as I know you’ve always told me that this is just something that I am able to do.
Noreen Renier: It’s just the way my mind could work and I could do this, but there was no spirituality. I mean just being positive is a wonderful thing no matter what you’re doing but it had nothing to do with [me being] psychic.
Alex Tsakiris: But don’t you think a lot of people still have those associations or when you talk about worrying about offending people I think that’s what lies at the heart of this.
Noreen Renier: Oh, absolutely. Certainly, the United States. In other countries sometimes they’re more advanced or this is just foolishness to them. But absolutely in the United States. We still have that stigma. And it’s the government. It’s the politicians. It’s whatever because we have more control over people if we stay in the logical, rational mode. If you go off in learning how to use the mind in different ways, maybe the power or control would not be … am I making any sense?
Alex Tsakiris: That’s a real third rail issue to talk about but I do have to wonder if that’s lurking behind all of this. I think sometimes people get a little bit too conspiratorial. Let’s just break it down in really simple terms: if you’re going to run a country like the United States, the largest and only super power left in the world, you need to have control of the people.
Noreen Renier: Of course. When you [look at] these countries that don’t have control of the people and the wars that are going on, we need our government, but, we have to take down a few barriers and be a little more [open]. But I understand what you’re saying.
Alex Tsakiris: I think people who are historically minded and say this is really about what happened in the ‘60s with the consciousness expanding psychedelics; and we can look at how that was originally a military intelligence project and it got out of hand, and they said, how do we reign that back in? I think there’s always been this battle over consciousness and it’s brewing underneath. I don’t think it’s the main battle in our culture but I do think anyone who’s in the know and is trying to run the world the best way they can would be concerned about what people are doing with their consciousness; what people are doing with their mental powers and whether they’re using psychedelic drugs to reach these other realms, or whether they’re believing that there is some life after death from near-death experiences, or they’re tapping into their psychic abilities.
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